the problem we use west texas intermediate fuel and you're only going to pump that out when it turns into petroleum out of the east and west coast, a very small part of the population that's going to get that gasoline. but that's 2 million barrels a day. >> brenda: how many jobs would it create? >> i think the pipeline is better long-term and short term vechlt. g investment. you're getting the small business going and employment going a little bit. the payroll tax i'm telling you, i looked at it and the bottom line, not a lot of money there for me to be able to turn around and say, ooh, now i'm going to have tax flow in my company. i'm not. it's not enough. not what the number one thing, saying as small business people we need. not the payroll tax, we need to rehaul the system. >> boehner is coming out and trying to say that this will-- he wants the pipeline there and trying to use the environmental card here and trying to create that argument. it's a lost cause for him. >> susan. >> yes. >> doesn't it lower oil, gas prices, too, doesn't that help the economy? >> you know, it could.